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Listen: Firewall & Iceberg Podcast No. 205

Dan and Alan discuss 'Once Upon a Time in Wonderland,' 'Walking Dead' and more


Happy Thursday, Boys & Girls!
It seems like forever, but we're back with our first new Firewall & Iceberg Podcast in 10-ish days. Apologies for the delays and apologies for not having the opportunity to tell you to avoid basically every new network show premiering last week and maybe this week.
Actually, we got in under the wire on ABC's "Once Upon a Time in Wonderland," which premieres tonight. We also reviewed the new season of AMC's "The Walking Dead." We talked about the early season successes and failures -- this podcast was completed mere minutes *before* ABC picked up a back-nine for "Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." -- and we answered a couple pieces of mail.
No podcast next Monday in honor of Columbus Day, but hopefully we'll be back sometime next week!
Today's breakdown:
"Once Upon a Time in Wonderland" (00:01:40 - 00:16:20)
Season 4 of "The Walking Dead" (00:16:25 - 00:26:25)
Early Season Successes and Failures (00:26:30 - 00:49:30)
Listener Mail - Spinoffs (00:50:05 - 00:56:15)
Listener Mail - Showtime meddling (00:56:20 - 01:04:55)

As always, you can subscribe to The Firewall & Iceberg Podcast over at the iTunes Store, where you can also rate us and comment on us. [Or you can always follow our RSS Feed.] 

And as always, feel free to e-mail us questions for the podcast.



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'American Horror Story' scores record ratings with 'Coven'

"American Horror Story" scores record ratings with "Coven"

The premiere was seen by 5.5 million, beating everything on broadcast TV except "Modern Family."

Study: One-third of millenials don't watch broadcast TV

They either watch online video only or no TV at all.

Is sexism destroying "Survivor"?
This season, says Linda Holmes, "has quickly ripened into the most distastefully bro-worshiping, wife-fearing season yet."

Natalie Zea heads to Amazon
She'll play the wife of a football team owner in "The Outlaws."

"Big Bang's" Kunal Nayyar is writing his memoir

The actor will recount his childhood in India through a series of humorous essays.

Miley Cyrus had the most-watched "SNL" since March
Ratings could've been even higher had "Saturday Night Live" not been delayed 27 minutes by college football.

PBS will air a "Downton Abbey" special in December

"Return to Downton Abbey" will offer "a tantalizing taste" of Season 4.

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Firewall & Iceberg Podcast, episode 205: 'The Walking Dead' & more

Dan and Alan also discuss the new season's early winners and losers


Better late than never, it's time for a new Firewall & Iceberg Podcast. When last we left you, we were going to review some of the fall's lesser shows like "Super Fun Night" and "Sean Saves the World," and then do another podcast on Monday discussing "The Tomorrow People," "American Horror Story: Co-ven," etc., but life got in the way repeatedly. The planets finally aligned today, however, and while we had to skip a bunch of premieres, we were still able to discuss tonight's debut of "Once Upon a Time in Wonderland," the return of "The Walking Dead" on Sunday, early winners and losers of the new fall season, the flood of spin-offs being developed and all the rumblings about Showtime executives interfering with "Homeland" and "Dexter." 

With the Columbus Day holiday on Monday, don't expect the next podcast til Tuesday at the earliest.

The rundown:

"Once Upon a Time in Wonderland" (00:01:40 - 00:16:20)
Season 4 of "The Walking Dead" (00:16:25 - 00:26:25)
Early Season Successes and Failures (00:26:30 - 00:49:30)
Listener Mail - Spinoffs (00:50:05 - 00:56:15)
Listener Mail - Showtime meddling (00:56:20 - 01:04:55)

As always, you can subscribe to The Firewall & Iceberg Podcast over at the iTunes Store, where you can also rate us and comment on us. Or you can always follow our RSS Feed, download the MP3 file or stream it on Dan's blog.

And as always, feel free to e-mail us questions for the podcast.


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<p>&quot;Karama Has No&nbsp;Walls&quot;</p>

"Karama Has No Walls"

Credit: Hot Spot Films

Eight documentary shorts make Academy's Oscar shortlist

Which three won't make the nomination cut?

The Academy has announced this year's field of contending documentary short subject films for the 86th annual Academy Awards. The crop has been trimmed down to eight, from which five nominees will be chosen.

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<p>Lady Gaga in &quot;Machete Kills&quot;</p>

Lady Gaga in "Machete Kills"

Listen: Lady Gaga shows you her 'Aura' in new song from 'Machete Kills'

Momma Monster also releases track listing for 'ArtPop'

Lady Gaga asks if you want to see her naked in her new song, “Aura.” Haven’t we already done that?  The fun, campy song is from “Machete Kills,” the new Robert Rodriguez film that features Gaga in her first movie role, as well as Danny Trejo, Sofia Vergara, Amber Heard, Mel Gibson, Michele Rodriguez, and Carlos Estevez (aka Charlie Sheen).

The song opens with a sultry voice over by Gaga that recalls Shirley Bassey before switching up to a kitschy, snyth-laden, stuttering vocal portion before more spoken word from Lady Gaga. Eventually it moves into a catchy sung portion, where she questions if you want to see the girl who lives behind the aura. Rinse and repeat. It works fine in the context of the movie, not so much as a stand-alone tune.

The lyric video is really more of a trailer for “Machete Kills,” although the song also appears on “ArtPop,” as indicated by Lady Gaga’s mention of her Nov. 11 release at the end.

Lady Gaga released the track listing for “ArtPop” today via a series of tweets by a group of Momma Monster’s fans.

"ArtPop" track listing

"Sexxx Dreams"
"Jewels N' Drugs"
"Do What U Want"
"Mary Jane Holland"

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<p>A scene from &quot;Gravity&quot;</p>

A scene from "Gravity"

Credit: Warner Bros.

Tech Support: Can anything beat 'Gravity' for Best Cinematography?

Other hopefuls in the category include 'Captain Phillips' and '12 Years a Slave'

"Lights. Camera. Action." This phrase is admittedly somewhat of a cliché, but it is iconic because it captures the feel of making a movie. Interesting that two of the three commands are directed to a film’s camera department. Without a camera, there is no cinema. Cinematography is essential, and when done well, from lighting to camera placement and movement to capturing the mood, there is no purer way to bring the director’s vision to screen.

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<p>Clark Gregg and Ming-Na Wen of &quot;Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.&quot;</p>

Clark Gregg and Ming-Na Wen of "Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D."

Credit: ABC

'Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.' gets its full-season order from ABC

Joss Whedon co-created show has been winning its Tuesday 8 p.m. slot
This was just a matter of time: ABC has given a full-season order to "Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D."
Co-created by Joss Whedon, Jed Whedon and Maurissa Tancharoen, "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." is a spinoff-of-sorts from the recent string of successful Marvel features, specifically using "The Avengers" as its starting point. 
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<p>Richard Belzer as John Munch on &quot;Law &amp;&nbsp;Order:&nbsp;Special Victims Unit.&quot;</p>

Richard Belzer as John Munch on "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit."

Credit: NBC

'Law & Order: SVU' retires Detective Munch

Between 'SVU,' 'Homicide' and a bunch of other series, Belzer has played Munch for more than 20 years

After 20 years, several hundred episodes and appearances on more shows than any other character in American TV history, Detective John Munch is retiring.

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<p>Idris Elba in &quot;Mandela.&quot;</p>

Idris Elba in "Mandela."

Credit: The Weinstein Company

Idris Elba's 'Mandela' to meet the Queen as this year's Royal Film Performance

Can the indifferently reviewed biopic regain any awards momentum?
The Weinstein Company's "Mandela: Long Walk to Freedom" landed with a bit of a thud at Toronto.  Idris Elba may have received respectable reviews for his performance as the freedom fighter who became South Africa's first democratically elected president, as did Naomie Harris as his controversial wife, Winnie. But early, trailer-assisted fears that the film would turn out to be a stodgy, Wikipedia-style biopic were largely borne out by the reviews, swiftly cutting the film's awards hopes down to a long-shot Best Actor bid for Elba and little more. 
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'Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.' gets a full-season pickup

"Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." gets a full-season pickup

The ABC drama will run 22 episodes this season.

Richard Belzer and "SVU" boss talk Munch's exit
Exec producer Warren Leight says of Munch leaving: "It's painful."

Questlove will publish a book on "Soul Train," his 2nd book in months

"Soul Train: The Music, Dance and Style of a Generation" is due out Oct. 22, with a preface by Nick Cannon.

Miley Cyrus will perform at the American Music Awards

Will she try and top her VMA performance?

Nick Offerman announces he's doing "The Simpsons," reveals that Sam Elliott is his "personal hero"
"When I heard that Sam Elliott was going to be playing my Eagleton equivalent," says Offerman, "my first feeling was a deep, ruby flush of embarrassment that anyone would remotely consider putting me in the same room as my personal hero."

Albuquerque steakhouse to hold a funeral for Walter White
Vernon's Hidden Valley Steakhouse has organized the "Breaking Bad" funeral for this Saturday, with set decorator Michael Flowers delivering the eulogy. PLUS: See Walter White in a Phillies jersey, and a tennis announcer uses "Breaking Bad" references in tennis match.

"The Simpsons" to feature Judd Apatow, Leslie Mann, Channing Tatum, Seth Rogen and Paul Rudd
All in one episode!

Whitney Cummings recalls stealing Chelsea Handler's Bentley
Cummings recounted the tale to Jay Leno.

"Bachelor" Ben Flajnik denies rumor he's dating Kris Jenner

But "Keeping Up With The Kardashians" did film at his winery.

Watch the trailer for Syfy's "Bitten" starring Laura Vandervoort
The female werewolf series asks: Who's afraid of the big, blonde wolf?

"Queer Eye" reunion gets air date
Andy Cohen will host "Queer Eye Reunion: 10 Years Later" on Oct. 20.

"Archer" does "Top Gun"
Watch the animated series' "Danger Zone."

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<p>Wednesday's &quot;Modern Family&quot;</p>

Wednesday's "Modern Family"

Credit: ABC

TV Ratings: 'Super Fun Night,' 'Ironside' take Wednesday drops as 'Modern Family,' 'Criminal Minds' lead

'Arrow' and 'Tomorrow People' have solid launches for The CW
Fast National ratings for Wednesday, October 9, 2013.
With "Modern Family" delivering Wednesday's best numbers among young viewers and "Criminal Minds" drawing the biggest audience, it was no surprise to see ABC and CBS battling for Wednesday's ratings crowns.
It also wasn't surprising to see NBC's "Ironside" dip ever-closer to cancellation in its second week, nor to see ABC's "Super Fun Night" take a rather large dip in its second airing.
Most of Wednesday's TV offerings posted small declines, with "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" having one of the bigger drops and ABC's "The Middle" serving as one of the exceptions with a small audience gain.
Meanwhile, the second season premiere of "Arrow" basically equalled its May finale in both viewers and in the key demo, giving a solid lead-in for "The Tomorrow People," which retained well in its debut.
On to the numbers... 
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Kanye West boosts Jimmy Kimmel's ratings

Kanye West boosts Jimmy Kimmel's ratings
Kimmel beat both Jay Leno and David Letterman with the high-profile Kanye interview.

"Super Fun Night" and "Ironside" see decline in Week 2
The Rebel Wilson comedy lost 29% of its premiere viewership. Meanwhile, "The Tomorrow People" premiered to 2.3 million.

Miley Cyrus' name has been removed from all "Hannah Montana" items on iTunes
Everything related to "Hannah Montana" is now credited to Hannah Montana, and not Miley Cyrus.

Watch Kristen Wiig & Tobey Maguire play sibling lovers on IFC
They're starring in "The Spoils of Babylon" from Funny or Die.

NFL's new "Hard Knocks" requirement will exempt nearly every team
Yes, the NFL will start forcing teams to participate on the HBO reality show. But with three separate exemptions, the NFL would only have five of the 32 teams to pick from if it had to force a team to participate this year.

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