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Firewall & Iceberg Podcast, episode 79: 'Game of Thrones' & 'The Killing' finales and more

Firewall & Iceberg Podcast, episode 79: 'Game of Thrones' & 'The Killing' finales and more

Dan and Alan also review 'Combat Hospital' and take on episode 3 of 'Twin Peaks'


Time for what may be the first of two episodes of the Firewall & Iceberg Podcast this week. I say "may" only because our technical problems have been so hellacious of late that I'm not sure Dan or I have the heart to try two podcasts in one week. But at the very least, we got in a very long discussion of the finales of "The Killing" and "Game of Thrones," plus more "Twin Peaks" and a review of ABC's "Combat Hospita."  The run-down:

ABC's "Combat Hospital" -- 02:00 - 10:10
"Twin Peaks" -- 10:15 - 33:10
The "Game of Thrones" finale -- 33:15 - 53:30
The "Killing" finale -- 53:30 - 01:25:00
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<p>Bon Iver's Justin Vernon</p>

Bon Iver's Justin Vernon

Credit: Jagjaguwar

Review: Bon Iver's new album 'Bon Iver'

Does this sophomore set sink or swim in all the natural imagery?

Where Bon Iver’s magnificent first album “For Emma, Forever Ago” chronicled a very particular low time and a place for mastermind Justin Vernon, this sophomore set is a fleshier recollection of what happens when he stepped back into the light.

Granted, “Bon Iver” is no summer picnic, but it contains less ache, and more stretching out, and into natural habitats. Fire, ice, soil, lakes, valleys, the moon and stars make up this 10-track map, adorned with city names, which then turns its focus on the rise of a chest, or pools in the eyes of his subjects. These location-specific songs each are little vignettes and moments of Vernon’s shaped into odd poetry and romantics, like mundane daily details turned into outright whoppers.
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Susan Lucci at the 38th Annual Daytime Emmy Awards

Susan Lucci at the 38th Annual Daytime Emmy Awards

Credit: AP/Jeff Bottari

At the Emmys, Soap stars talk about how to save daytime dramas

And one wants to give Oprah a call

LAS VEGAS - From the stage of the 38th Annual Daytime Emmy Awards, “All My Children” star Susan Lucci announced, “Daytime television is alive and well!” Though her voice rang with conviction, it was an ironic statement coming from an actress whose longtime soap acting gig was downsized after “AMC” got the ax earlier this year. While she wasn’t the only soap star to smile bravely in the face of bad news, more than a few stars I spoke with on the red carpet expressed sadness, hope and their own ideas on how to save the troubled daytime drama genre.

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<p>Nice to see his flippers are still firmly fixed in the 60's...</p>

Nice to see his flippers are still firmly fixed in the 60's...

Credit: Disney

Watch: First official trailer for 'The Muppets' premieres

There are some things Gen X is not cynical about

In a recent interview with HitFix for "Bad Teacher" Jason Segel refused to reveal his "marketing strategy to to take over the world with Muppets." But the release of the first official, non-parody trailer for "The Muppets" shows that there is some kind of master plan for the marketing of the everyone's favorite Marionette/Puppets.

The funny thing is, after the sharp, surprising, and hilarious parody trailers, this first official one is a little bit of a letdown. It's just a trailer. Some funny jokes in it, but pretty light on story, so it really doesn't give us any more information than: It's a movie, and all the Muppets are in it.

Starting with the romantic comedy parody "Green With Envy" and Ending with the Ryan Reynolds' voiced Green Lantern spoof, the sting or parody Muppet trailers have been great. To a certain degree I wish they'd kept making those with their own jokes so that I don't get any more spoilers, but I nitpick.

Watch the trailer after the jump

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<p>Jason Segel, Kermit the Frog and Miss Piggy in a scene from &quot;The Muppets.&quot;</p>

Jason Segel, Kermit the Frog and Miss Piggy in a scene from "The Muppets."

Credit: Walt Disney Studios

Set Visit: Jason Segel and 'The Muppets' get ready to take on the 21st Century

The 'HIMYM' star reveals all and insists he's 20% creepy

GLENDALE, CA - Disney's new movie "The Muppets" features two-time Oscar nominee Amy Adams, Kermit the Frog, Miss Piggy, a new Muppet named Walter and a slew of your favorite Jim Henson creations, but the picture is really the Jason Segel show.  Even if you hadn't heard the "How I Met Your Mother" star wax during interviews about his love of The Muppets, the final scene in "Forgetting Sarah Marshall" (which he wrote and starred in), you knew there was a connection between Segel and the Muppets.  That love turned into an original screenplay, co-written with Nicholas Stoller, that could make the beloved franchise a family favorite once more.

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Shemar Moore, "Criminal Minds"

Shemar Moore, "Criminal Minds"

Credit: CBS

Behind the scenes of the 38th Annual Daytime Emmy Awards

Shemar Moore, Alex Trebek upbeat backstage despite daytime drama

LAS VEGAS -- Despite the dire state of daytime drama following the cancellations of “One Life to Live” and “All My Children,” the mood was doggedly upbeat at the Daytime Emmy Awards in Las Vegas on Sunday. While I talked to many stars on the red carpet about their sadness over the shrinking number of network daytime dramas (right now there are just four) and their sympathy for unemployed colleagues, that bummer mood was largely put aside when the show began. With bouncy hosting by Wayne Brady and performances by Celine Dion, Penn & Teller and Cirque de Soleil, it was time to get the party started. At least, as long as the party lasts.

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Kyle Massey, Kim Matula and Christopher Massey

Kyle Massey, Kim Matula and Christopher Massey

Credit: AP/Jeff Bottari

The Massey brothers talk about their (Bristol) Palin project

Expect wholesome entertainment, not Hollywood drama

LAS VEGAS -- Anyone hoping for bad girl antics and wild nights in Hollywood from Bristol Palin’s new reality TV project with her “Dancing with the Stars” pal Kyle Massey and his brother Christopher are likely to be disappointed. The way the Masseys described the show backstage at the 38th Annual Daytime Emmy Awards made it sound closer to “Three’s Company,” but more wholesome (and, we’re guessing, not as funny). “Bristol’s coming down from Alaska to live with us in L.A.,” Kyle said backstage at the Daytime Emmy Awards. “It’s pretty much us living life in L.A and showing her how we circulate in Hollywood.”

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<p>Harley (Steve Earle)&nbsp;and Annie (Lucia Micarelli)&nbsp;in &quot;Treme.&quot;</p>

Harley (Steve Earle) and Annie (Lucia Micarelli) in "Treme."

Credit: HBO

'Treme' - 'What Is New Orleans?': Let's stay together

The city's light and dark sides are very much on display in a George Pelecanos-scripted episode

A review of tonight's "Treme" coming up just as soon as I put y'all on a need-to-know basis...

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<p>Tywin Lannister (Charles Dance)&nbsp;ponders the state of affairs in the &quot;Game of Thrones&quot;&nbsp;season finale.</p>

Tywin Lannister (Charles Dance) ponders the state of affairs in the "Game of Thrones" season finale.

Credit: HBO

'Game of Thrones' - 'Fire & Blood': Reviewing the season finale

The finale doubles as a thrilling prologue for season 2

"Game of Thrones" just wrapped up its terrific first season, and I have a review of the finale coming up (and, for anyone who DVR'ed "The Killing" finale but hasn't seen it yet, I briefly discuss my opinion of it in a non-spoiler-y fashion), just as soon as I favor my fingers...

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<p>Mireille Enos in &quot;The Killing&quot;&nbsp;season finale.</p>

Mireille Enos in "The Killing" season finale.

Credit: AMC

'The Killing' - 'Orpheus Descending': Reviewing the season finale

A frustrating season comes to a maddening, insulting end

"The Killing" wrapped up its first season tonight. I interviewed showrunner Veena Sud about the season, and highly recommend you read that before we get to my review of the finale, as I'll be discussing what she said a lot. My review - with plentiful spoilers for the episode, of course - coming up just as soon as me doing math is like a dog wearing a hat...

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<p>Billy Campbell in a scene from &quot;The Killing&quot;&nbsp;season finale.</p>

Billy Campbell in a scene from "The Killing" season finale.

Credit: AMC

Interview: 'The Killing' showrunner Veena Sud on the season finale

Sud unapologetic for how things went, cryptic on season 2

"The Killing" just concluded its first season and... well... I'm not a very happy camper right now. But you can go read my review for all of that.

I had the chance to speak to producer Veena Sud after I saw the finale, to discuss not only the way the episode went down, but to get her take on the season as a whole and some of the complaints people have had with it. Obviously significant spoilers for the finale and the season coming up after the jump...

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<p>Noah Wyle in &quot;Falling Skies.&quot;</p>

Noah Wyle in "Falling Skies."

Credit: TNT

'Falling Skies' - 'Pilot': Join or die

What did everybody think of the alien invasion drama?

I published my review of TNT's "Falling Skies" on Friday. It's an effective pulp thriller, but as I said in the comments section, I'm not sure how well it lends itself to weekly analysis. It's good, but it's not deep. With a bunch of other notable cable shows ending their seasons tonight (or nearing the end), I definitely don't have any time to write individual commentary on the pilot itself. That's a shame, as these two hours were the strongest of the five I've seen. 

But why don't those of you who watched weigh in on the pilot, and going forward, we'll play it by ear. If there's enough interest, I may treat it the way I've treated  "True Blood" or "Big Love" - extremely short weekly posts mostly designed as a place for everyone to discuss it - or maybe I'll just check in now and then if there's an especially notable episode. 

What did everybody else think?

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