Exclusive: Edward Norton's agent responds to Marvel Chief's statement
'purposefully misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light'
Edward Norton in "The Incredible Hulk."
[UPDATE: Edward Norton has posted his own statement on Facebook.]
In what is turning out to be a dramatic parting of the ways, Edward Norton's agent has issued a statement to HitFix after Marvel Studios confirmed the Academy Award nominee would not return as Bruce Banner in "The Avengers."
As HitFix broke exclusively on Friday, Marvel Studios is going in a new direction for the Hulk, replacing Norton who starred in 2008's "The Incredible Hulk" as a scientist who transforms into a monstrous, but heroic Hulk after a massive exposure to gamma radiation. Marvel indicated their decision was not about salary, as sources had indicated to HitFix originally,, but "instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members."
Brian Swardstrom of WME responds with the following:
"This offensive statement from Kevin Feige at Marvel is a purposefully misleading, inappropriate attempt to paint our client in a negative light. Here are the facts: two months ago, Kevin called me and said he wanted Edward to reprise the role of Bruce Banner in The Avengers. He told me it would be his fantasy to bring Edward on stage with the rest of the cast at ComiCon and make it the event of the convention. When I said that Edward was definitely open to this idea, Kevin was very excited and we agreed that Edward should meet with Joss Whedon to discuss the project. Edward and Joss had a very good meeting (confirmed by Feige to me) at which Edward said he was enthusiastic at the prospect of being a part of the ensemble cast. Marvel subsequently made him a financial offer to be in the film and both sides started negotiating in good faith. This past Wednesday, after several weeks of civil, uncontentious discussions, but before we had come to terms on a deal, a representative from Marvel called to say they had decided to go in another direction with the part. This seemed to us to be a financial decision but, whatever the case, it is completely their prerogative, and we accepted their decision with no hard feelings.
We know a lot of fans have voiced their public disappointment with this result, but this is no excuse for Feige's mean spirited, accusatory comments. Counter to what Kevin implies here, Edward was looking forward to the opportunity to work with Joss and the other actors in the Avengers cast, many of whom are personal friends of his. Feige's statement is unprofessional, disingenuous and clearly defamatory. Mr. Norton talent, tireless work ethic and professional integrity deserve more respect, and so do Marvel's fans.
Brian Swardstrom
WME"
There is no official statement from Edward Norton at this time, but he is expected to comment on the matter eventually.
"The Incredible Hulk" was directed by Louis Letterier and grossed $267 million worldwide. That was on par with Ang Lee's "Hulk" which starred Eric Bana and found $245 million globally in 2003.
Joss Whedon will direct "The Avengers" which is rumored to be introducing the entire cast, without Norton, at the 2010 Comic-Con International convention in San Diego later this month. "The Avengers" will be released May 4, 2012 and begin production sometime early next year.
More updates on this story as they become available on HitFix.
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Next 83 CommentsJohnothan Pedak
July 11, 2010 at 5:21PM EST Reply to CommentThree different actors in three films? They should save some face and bring back Eric Bana.
Support Norton on Facebook!! Eric Bana was good but Norton was slightly better and in a way better movie!
July 12, 2010 at 6:21PM ESThttp://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=132298550142838
July 11, 2010 at 5:26PM EST Reply to CommentI thought two times was enough..
Really? You didnt want a sequel to either Hulk movies? I know neither one were downright amazing, but neither actor was to blame... Norton was better though, and should be in Avengers...
July 12, 2010 at 6:23PM ESTSupport him here... on facebook
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=132298550142838
July 11, 2010 at 5:40PM EST Reply to CommentKevin Feige.
Joe Quesada.
Is Marvel just full of piece of crap douche bags, or is it just me?
Hey Marvel, why don't you clone Norton and bring him on stage as Banner, because it worked so well with Spider-Man.
Or you can make a deal with Satan and make us all forget that you were a bunch of incredible douche bags to begin with, because again, it worked so well with Spider-Man.
Marvel sucks. Thank God the WB is allowing DC unfettered access to the films being made from DC intellectual property... FINALLY.
Green Lantern is going to mop the floor with Thor and Captain America.
Drew Melbourne There's a world of difference between a company coming up with story concepts you don't like and a company treating their talent badly.
July 11, 2010 at 6:07PM ESTAlso, the Spider-Man clone saga was 15 years ago and Joe Quesada had nothing to do with that, so that's kind of an odd dig.
Seems like you're taking advantage of Feige's inappropriate remarks to take a cheap/unjustified swipe at Quesada...
Kyle Bravo Matt, I'm glad someone finally said it. Marvel Studios are the cheapest bunch of conceded douche-nozels I've seen since FOX. They just wanted to stick it to Norton for actually trying to have some creative control in order to make the Hulk reboot good, which he did by re-writing the abortion that was Zak Penn's script.
July 11, 2010 at 6:18PM ESTMarvel thinks they know all and are giving so much money to Downey Jr., who is the most overrated actor working today, that they won't give Norton what he's worth. Say what you want about WB and DC but at least they're getting top-notch talent attached to their properties and not being cheap bastards about it. Oh yea, and Iron Man 2 sucked....hard!!!
Say what you want Drew, but Kyle brings up an interesting point.
July 11, 2010 at 6:52PM ESTWhy do horrible screen writers like Zak Penn and Ehren Kruger keep getting jobs?
And why do production companies protect them?
Marvel has been screwing up crap for a long time, and you're right, they've been screwing stuff up BEFORE Joe Q become EIC, but now that he's in the big chair, it seems that their "Eff You" mentality has jumped through the roof.
Say what you want about how WB has handled owning DC, but they took a lesson from Sony and Marvel (with how everyone worked so harmonously on the first two Spider-Man flicks) and said, "Hey, look at that... you CAN have great movies if you involve comic book writers and creators in the process!"
Nolan's working with DC talent and becoming immersed in the world of Batman courtesy of DC writers and creators has given us one of the best comic book films ever made, and it's sequel, which is one of the best FILMS ever made.
Geoff Johns has been very vocal and congratulatory to Greg Berlanti and Martin Campbell for letting him into the process of preproduction and sorting out the story on Green Lantern.
He's also going to help with The Flash.
Now, Marvel has done much of this as well. But guys like Feige are bleeding dry the last drops of good faith Iron Man brought the company.
And that's what everything is all about. Good faith. You don't want to break faith with the people who will ultimately judge you. And that is what guys like Feige and Quesada are doing / have done.
Now, I might be personally upset that Nolan doesn't have enough imagination to create a world where his Batman and his Superman exist with each other and Campbell's Green Lantern, but I have faith that Nolan will bring us the very best Superman ever brought to screen. Why?
Because he continues to curry our good faith. Not burn bridges.
Kevin Feige would be wise to learn that.
Playhouse Whether 'Green Lantern' turns out to be a better movie than 'Thor' and/or 'Captain America' or not - and Martin Campbell is the only thing on that project that gives me hope - WB/DC is still crawling for second place behind Marvel and fumbling around in the dark. They still literally have no gameplan for how best to bring the brand to film. It's all piecemeal and shows decided sketchiness in creativity except for, lo and behold, Superman and Batman.
July 11, 2010 at 6:55PM EST
Playhouse...
July 11, 2010 at 7:18PM EST... really? Goyer is writing Superman with Jonathan Nolan.
The Flash is ready for preproduction as soon as Berlanti is done with the screenplay.
There are quite a few directors who want to do Wonder Woman, including Katherine Bigelow, whom I believe just won some film award or something.
Will we ever see a JLA film? Probably not. At least not in the form we want.
But WB/DC is in second place? You haven't been paying attention.
It's Marvel who's been in catch up.
I seem to remember that it wasn't three years ago that Justice League had it's outstanding finale. And that was all built up from Batman and Superman: TAS. Those three series STILL being the gold standard for televised cartoons.
Have you seen any of the DC Animated films? Blows anything and everything Marvel has put out that's animated during the same time.
Superman/Batman: Public Enemies was outstanding. As was Green Lantern: First Flight, Wonder Woman, and Justice League: New Frontier.
Come on now, let's be honest in our dealings here today, unlike Mr. Kevin Feige.
In fact, I retract my previous that we probably won't see a JLA film any time soon.
Because I believe a visionary director, like Zack Snyder, perhaps, can give us the one story I know all comic book fans would give their left nut for:
Kingdom Come.
Who wouldn't love to see John Hamm as an older Superman, Lucy Lawless as Wonder Woman, and in the greatest bit of comic book casting ever, Clint Eastwood as an old, broken Bruce Wayne?
Ahh, we can dream.
But at least with WB/DC, it's a dream that could actually come true, because of the good will and good faith they've currently built up.
Marvel has lost most of theirs. And that's the point that's totally lost on you. It's that way with true believers and nuts.
Also, more proof that WB/DC really understands how to use their properties correctly and in a way that fans appreciate:
July 11, 2010 at 8:10PM ESThttp://www.arkhamhasmoved.com/us/
Playhouse DC Animated Films have absolutely nothing to do with this. They're produced by Warner Bros. Animation which is run separately of the film division. Plus, we don't want to get into the discussions about how the DC Animated canceled the majority of its upcoming slate of films because GL, Wonder Woman, and even 'Public Enemies' and 'Crisis on Two Earths' didn't perform as well as they'd hoped. And just like the film division, the Animated stuff will focus on Superman and Batman for the foreseeable future save for a GL flick due to be released to capitalize on the live-action movie.
July 11, 2010 at 8:13PM ESTThe live-action segment for WB/DC is still a mess. They haven't decided how connected the films are going to be. 'The Flash' has been in a constant state of getting ready for pre-production for years now; nothing is firm. Lauren Shuler Donner would love to get behind 'Wonder Woman' but she's come out as saying that WB/DC doesn't want to do the movie. The Green Arrow/'Supermax' movie is in a state of limbo still. And not another character has been presented as a strong possibility.
I'm not saying Marvel isn't without its missteps but it's foolish to say Marvel isn't in the driver's seat when it comes to live-action films. WB even admitted this when they decided to spin DC Comics into DC Entertainment this year.
-Yeah, you might want to save the cheerleading till DC actually gets more than three superhero movies released (compared to Marvels's, what, twenty?) I'm not saying you won't be proven right in ten years, but comparing the reality of what Marvel's produced with your dream of what DC is going to do, and obviously the dream is going to win all the time.
July 11, 2010 at 9:29PM ESTThat said, I agree that Kevin Feige has proven himself a douche.
Playhouse Oh, and then there was 'Jonah Hex'.
July 11, 2010 at 9:39PM ESTBut yes, I think we can all agree that Feige's response is going to be a strong contender at the D-Bag Awards for 2010. It also seems to paint a dimmer picture of his personality than was originally presented.
man, I love what Mulderism had to say below.
July 11, 2010 at 9:44PM ESTMarvel's quantity versus DC's QUALITY.
Nolan. Campbell. Snyder.
These are all excellent directors.
And most importantly, WB/DC is not alienating these directors by being cheapskates, lowballing them in negotiations (like Marvel did with Favs, Jackson, and Rourke).
Now, the weird thing here is you would have thought that Marvel would have learned what NOT to do by paying attention to Sony, Avi Arad, and FOX (Tom Rothman, King of Douches), but they have not.
Instead, they seem intent on making the same mistakes.
I have hope Thor will be good, as I genuinely love everything Brannaugh has done (baring Frankenstein).
But Captain America? Joe Johnston? At least The Avengers has Joss Whedon, but let's see how much rope Kevin Feige gives him, shall we?
We already know that Sir Joss cannot be happy at the studio's frakking with his film, as his meetings with Norton went really, really well.
Joss has walked away from a film for less than what Feige just did (Wonder Woman).
Playhouse DC's had six films in the modern era so far: 'Batman Begins', 'Superman Returns', 'The Dark Knight', 'Watchmen', 'The Losers' and 'Jonah Hex'. While I personally liked a number of things about 'Superman Returns', it could be argued that the movie was sub-par. 'Watchmen' and 'The Losers' both had mixed responses, tending negative. 'Hex' turned out to be a joke. It's safe to say that DC's only at 33% when it comes to quality of product so far. (Those would be the Batman flicks.) Batting .333 in baseball's great. In film, not so much.
July 11, 2010 at 10:53PM ESTI have nothing but respect for Campbell, but we have yet to see a lick of 'Green Lantern' to know what kind of quality we're dealing with. The things that have come out about the film - Parallax as the main baddie (jumping the gun much), the casting aside from Strong and Sarsgaard, the CGI suit, the way-off-base "Anyone Can Be Chosen" tagline - sound like landmines. I do hold out hope for it, though.
And 'Red', though not tradiitonal DC, does look fun. Even Warren Ellis dug the trailer, even though it's a different story than his source material. Of course, Summit made the movie, not WB, so I don't know that this one really counts.
After that, we know for certain we've got 'The Man of Steel' and 'Batman 3', which will likely both be good films. Again, outside Superman and Batman, WB/DC is rudderless.
As for Marvel's upcoming work, I'm not big on Joss Whedon. That we can agree on. Branagh has made some amazing films ('Mary Shelley's Frankenstein' aside) so 'Thor' shows a lot of promise. And Johnston directed 'The Rocketeer', which is criminally underrated and one of the best comic adaptations. With 'Cap' set in WWII, I have a great feeling about what Johnston will bring to the movie.
So the whole quality issue remains to be seen.
As for Marvel's "cheap" ways, this is my understanding of the situtation. They are still working on the Merrill Lynch credit line deal through 2013. Yes, whatever additional moneys they've earned they get to play with but in 2013, they have to pay off the $525 million borrowed from Merril Lynch. That limits them, in some fashion, to the amount of money they can spend on productions. Since DC is owned by WB, they have more available to them. I'm sure once the Merrill Lynch/Paramount deal is done, Marvel will probably lean on Disney's coffers going forward.
Long thread you got here... I just wanted to try and gather as much support for Norton as possible before I head to Comic-Con and spew fire at Kevin... and there might, just MIGHT be a chance at having a recognizable face with good acting ability to see play the Hulk...
July 12, 2010 at 6:25PM ESTNorton for Hulk on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=132298550142838
Steve J
July 11, 2010 at 6:07PM EST Reply to CommentIn all fairness this does paint Marvel Studios in a rather negative light... First Howard was "awkward", then they tried to low-ball both Jackson and Rourke and now this? For the love of God, Marvel - please put the films before your petty money and/or "we no like him" mentality. Your geek's wet dream of a united movie universe is quickly becoming a joke!
Matthew Don't forget they also tried to lowball Favreau at one point when Iron Man 2 was greenlit. There was a point were it looked like he wouldn't be a part of the sequel.
July 11, 2010 at 8:05PM EST
July 11, 2010 at 6:31PM EST Reply to Commentwoo-hoo! nerd rage!
Lee
July 11, 2010 at 6:31PM EST Reply to CommentGotta side with Norton on this. That press release from Marvel was unnecessarily bitchy, especially in light of how many of us really, really wanted Norton up there with Downey Jnr, Jackson, et al. The whole thing feels tainted now, and they were so damned close!
mike
July 11, 2010 at 6:38PM EST Reply to CommentThis why the Avengers movie will suck. Because Marvel doesn't know what they're doing. One minute they want Norton the minute he's out. I don't care if they get a guy like Joss Whedon to direct, the movie is gonna blow because no one is on the same page.
Gary Deckman
July 11, 2010 at 6:40PM EST Reply to CommentLoved Norton's somber, Bixby-ish take on the role. That being said, with Norton out, what's Bruce Campbell up to?
Bruce Campbell? Man, I hope that you were being ironic.
July 11, 2010 at 6:55PM ESTPlayhouse
July 11, 2010 at 7:06PM EST Reply to CommentI'd love to see Feige's response to this. Not only is this professional but it's supported with some evidence of the process. (Or testimony of the process, in any case.)
This is turning into quite a little mini-drama. Personally, I side with Norton because he was upfront with Marvel about what he wanted to do with 'The Incredible Hulk' before he signed on, they agreed and made the movie, and then went at the movie like the typical Hollywood studio when it came time to edit. Both Norton and Leterrier spoke out against the changes, as would be expected. Who knows how heated that all got but Feige's little release came across as a petty response to what all happened.
alphabet
July 11, 2010 at 7:17PM EST Reply to Commentmaybe they're trolling us, building anticipation for the comicon event...?
Matthew that did cross my mind, but it seems like an awfully long way to go to swerve the fans...
July 11, 2010 at 8:10PM ESTfilmstu
July 11, 2010 at 7:23PM EST Reply to CommentThis is terrible. What the eff is Marvel doing being cheap basterds on a film that could be so groundbreaking for the next decade, and a huge money maker? Yo've got Robert Downey, Sam Jackson, Scarlett, Chris Evans (a miscast in my book), and Hemsworth Thor, and you're gonna pull this drama tinted stunt? Fans are already outraged and I would absolutely love to see Norton in this. The guy is amazing and deserves more respect, not to be slandered as an unprofessional non-team player!
Regardless of Feige's ego he needs to apologize to Norton and get him back on board the Avengers b4 he pisses off more Marvel fans. Of course we know its all about the money.
1st you want Norton in then you go behind his back and insult him? What a turd...
Stormshadow4life
July 11, 2010 at 7:41PM EST Reply to Comment100% on Norton's side on this (and I firmly believe that Norton's Hulk would have done MUCH better had Ang Lee not made that turd of a movie so soon before)
Terence Erickson
July 11, 2010 at 7:42PM EST Reply to CommentLet's raise enough hell so they listen. I mean, they listen to all the NEGATIVE stuff we say and recast based on that (cough...Krasinski)
Krasinski should have got the part.
July 11, 2010 at 9:32PM EST
Krasinski should have got the part.
July 11, 2010 at 9:33PM ESTJoeK
July 11, 2010 at 7:45PM EST Reply to CommentWell this agent is definitely in the hot seat given that we could not deliver either but kudos to him for sticking up for Norton publicly.
I'm a Marvel fan from way way back but this sort of thing is really off putting. They asked to accept their reboot with Norton on the IMMEDIATE heels of the Bana one and now they are asking us to discard that one too essentially.
Not smart at all.
JoeK uh we = he in the above.
July 11, 2010 at 7:47PM EST/sheepish
John Bierly
July 11, 2010 at 8:10PM EST Reply to CommentThe Norton rep's response is nuclear, and probably written better than the Avengers movie will be.
This is sad, sad stuff.
July 11, 2010 at 8:37PM EST Reply to CommentNumber one, Marvel is a corporation concerned with one thing: Bottom line. The first Hulk grossed about 250 mil so they added a "name" actor and got another 25 mil for it. Figure with inflation and slightly higher ticket prices and that makes it a wash plus he was, at least from their point of view, a pain in the ass. So they recast it again since obviously the core audience will still go see it whoever is playing Bruce Banner.
Number two, I know the guy has a rabid fanbase but Joss Whedon is not a feature director. He's a television writer/producer/director and a damned good one and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. But he doesn't have the skill set or vision to direct a huge multi-million dollar movie. He should have Goyer's role in Nolan's Batman movies and they should bring someone in an experienced talent to work with him as a director.
Iron Man's success is largely due to the charm of RDJ. Nothing else Favreau has done has come close and both of those movies had BIG holes in them. Joe Johnston is a journeyman hack (Jurassic Park 3 anyone) and while I love Branagh's smaller Shakespeare stuff I just rewatched his Frankenstein. That should be enough said. Leterrier is a video director. I was willing to give him a second look and then saw Clash of the Titans.
All that said, this guy Feige sounds just like any other corporate lord type that gets all pissy when "the help" doesn't just take what they're given and smile.
Marvel caught lightning in a bottle with IM but they've been hiring on the cheap director-wise and that's only going to end with inferior product. Clearly they're going the penny wise pound foolish route taken by most businesses that let the bean-counters get involved in the creative end.
So anyway, the Avengers will likely be a near hit that feels like an almost-barely-if they had just-so close missed opportunity that half the fanboys will talk themselves into loving and the other half will dedicate years to bashing.
So let the Browncoat rage flow at me, deep down you know I'm right about Whedon.
You're wrong about Whedon.
July 11, 2010 at 9:09PM ESTSerenity proved he can direct a big budget film and make it work.
Don't quote me box office receipts, either.
The film is one of the best examples of Science Fiction in the last ten years.
It was reviewed very well by many prominent critics.
It didn't find an audience in theaters, and sometimes, due to any number of reasons (like with Harvey releasing Zack and Miri on Halloween, the one day no one goes to see movies), it really isn't the film's fault.
You are right about Fiege and love your Ben Franklin call-back.
But Joss has shown to be pretty much good at everything he's chosen to do, ESPECIALLY if he has control.
Kevin Feige.
July 11, 2010 at 9:09PM ESTJoe Quesada.
Is Marvel just full of piece of crap douche bags, or is it just me?
Hey Marvel, why don't you clone Norton and bring him on stage as Banner, because it worked so well with Spider-Man.
Or you can make a deal with Satan and make us all forget that you were a bunch of incredible douche bags to begin with, because again, it worked so well with Spider-Man.
Marvel sucks. Thank God the WB is allowing DC unfettered access to the films being made from DC intellectual property... FINALLY.
Green Lantern is going to mop the floor with Thor and Captain America. [2]
I'm convinced, Whedon is a genius!
July 11, 2010 at 10:19PM ESTWait, I'm not. I agree the film didn't get the support from a marketing standpoint (Btw I've bought the movie and series in two formats now) and I don't want to get into it for the same reason I quit trying to argue about religion.
I will say that Serenity rode on the backs of dialogue, chemistry between the cast and audience knowledge from the series. But narrative flow stuttered and visually none of the non-space action scenes looked different than you'd see on a weekly series. It just didn't look BIG and SCOPE and EPIC and honestly it played better in my living room than when I went to see it in the theater. And one of the best examples of sci-fi in the last ten years? Seriously? Dial it back, I can see ten sci fi movies of the 2000's on my shelf it doesn't hold up to.
So I guess I did get into it. Time will tell, but I'd put down real money that for a variety of reasons this film will disappoint up to and including the choice of director. I'm sure it will also make a shit-ton of money.
July 11, 2010 at 9:13PM EST Reply to CommentAh, Marvel...You get so pissy when somebody doesn't toe the line and take what you give them. God forbid anyone has an idea that might turn out better. Look, they want to replace Norton, fine. I think it's a bad move, but the tenor of the Marvel press release was just so snarky, I can't help but think they're hiding something.
Oh, and that Joss Whedon announcement's pretty well shot, huh?
comic relief Oh you are so right. Keep up the good commentatary Mark.
July 12, 2010 at 12:56AM EST
July 11, 2010 at 9:21PM EST Reply to CommentThat statement lines up with everything I've been reading. I understand negotiations can go any which way, but Feige's statement was so far beyond the pale that I can only conclude that he's an enormous douchebag, and has the potential to alienate other talent to the extent that Marvel might be well off to consider getting rid of him.
AndrewWickliffe I was thinking how funny it might be for them to have to recast Avengers 2 based on Feige's douchery.
July 11, 2010 at 9:25PM ESTIf Avengers bombs though (meaning not making $500 mil or something)... Disney's going to fire him, going to have to
AndrewWickliffe
July 11, 2010 at 9:23PM EST Reply to CommentHere's my thought... besides Feige being incredibly unprofessional and reactionary (did he really not expect Norton to respond?)... but I think Feige saw the reaction being, at least, cool to Marvel, if not negative.
Anyway... TV.
Incredible Hulk didn't make a killing, probably hasn't shown black yet, not with marketing. What if they want a tv series? Where better to introduce the star of the new Hulk tv show than the Avengers movie...
And cross-medium continuity, might be too hard for Marvel to resist...
They can't do a cgi Hulk in a tv series. That kind of character animation just isn't possible on a tv schedule. People criticized the animation in the movies, for Chrissakes.
July 11, 2010 at 9:38PM ESTMulderism
July 11, 2010 at 9:32PM EST Reply to CommentWow. That was an unexpected development. I side with Ed Norton. Marvel has a big vision but are coming at it poorly. It will be interesting to see if the movies succeed.
In the meantime I look forward to DC's upcoming projects with great people at the helm and with great creative control.
Marvel's quantity versus DC's quality.
CensorshipIsWrong
July 11, 2010 at 10:10PM EST Reply to CommentMarvel wanted Ed Norton. But he was being "difficult". Wanted to rewrite script get more screentime. Abrams wanted Shatner in Star Trek but the same thing happened. Shatner's ego got in the way and he wanted to call the shots. In regards to The Avengers all the other major players are on board. But Norton? There is one in every bunch.
AndrewWickliffe Where did Feige say he wanted to rewrite the Avengers script? Like rewriting a Zak Penn script is a bad idea anyway.
July 11, 2010 at 10:37PM ESTTheeGameDude
July 11, 2010 at 10:44PM EST Reply to CommentEverybody wants Norton. If you can get him then why wouldn't you? Wasn't the vision of Marvel (a good vision, btw) to be the first movie to bring in other franchise movies into one big movie? Marvel is going to drop the ball here by not having Norton as the Hulk. What gives?
John W
July 11, 2010 at 10:49PM EST Reply to CommentDoes it really matter who plays Bruce Banner?
We know from James Bond, Batman, Star Trek and even the previous Hulk that more than one actor can play the same character, and do it well.
Also consider, given that the Avengers will also feature Thor, Captain America, Iron Man, AND possibly Ant Man, Wasp, Hawkeye, AND one or two major villains AND the Hulk will be CGI, how much screen time is Bruce Banner (and the actor playing him) going to get anyway?
Elbow Disagree. All those examples are proof that every actor is NOT created equal.
July 11, 2010 at 11:55PM ESTsedeyus 1. As a fan, if you could have Ed Norton or not have Ed Norton in the film, wouldn't you want Ed Norton? 2. It says bad things about Marvel that they would diss the guy in such a public way. Why don't you tell him flat-out that he can't edit the script? And if he says no, say you parted amicably due to "creative differences". You can tell from Norton's agent this was a huge surprise to them.
July 12, 2010 at 12:01AM EST
July 11, 2010 at 11:54PM EST Reply to CommentYep, the media messing things up again, misconstruing the truth. Whether Norton plays the role or not the role will still be well-cast and the movie still promising. Freakin' jerks. It's just a shame that Norton's tremendous acting will not be a part of it.
sedeyus How did the media misconstrue anything? They've essentially been posting press statements from Marvel and Ed Norton's camp.
July 12, 2010 at 12:09AM EST
July 12, 2010 at 12:12AM EST Reply to Commentyeah, sometimes it seems they dont have a clue of what theyre doing... fuck man i really thought this was going to happen
Kyle SanIdiot
July 12, 2010 at 12:35AM EST Reply to Comment"Marvel thinks they know all and are giving so much money to Downey Jr., who is the most overrated actor working today, that they won't give Norton what he's worth. Say what you want about WB and DC but at least they're getting top-notch talent attached to their properties and not being cheap bastards about it. Oh yea, and Iron Man 2 sucked....hard!!!"
Youre an idiot, remember the whole "Justice League" they tried to pull off with a bunch of no names taking the parts of people they had for the roles already. This isnt the first time Norton has been called out for being a dick, learn something.
jo That was a Justice League reboot that was scrapped (key point). A reboot, as in, all-new. It was also scrapped before it was ever really started. Anyways, I'd rather it not get made because it wasn't right, then it get made and then remade in 2 years because it was crap.
July 13, 2010 at 1:03AM ESTFranny
July 12, 2010 at 12:54AM EST Reply to CommentI'm actually kind of glad they're going with someone else. I didn't like Ed as the hulk, nor Bana for that matter.
They'll now pick an actor who can also work well with the other cast, so there will at least be Chemistry if they miss the mark again.
July 12, 2010 at 2:05AM EST Reply to CommentI set up a poll to see who should play Banner / Hulk after the official news hit Norton was out.
http://tinyurl.com/2vtk466
So far "They should have kept Norton" is in the lead with joint second being Eric Bana, Simon Pegg, Billy Crudup.
Personally I think Neil Patrick Harris could make a great Banner plus he has history with Whedon.
Poll is here if you wish to vote http://tinyurl.com/2vtk466
Sultan Simon Pegg or Neil Patrick Harris??? Those are some of the WORST ideas I've ever heard!
July 12, 2010 at 2:06PM ESTBrad
July 12, 2010 at 2:39AM EST Reply to CommentI'm very calmly gonna boycott The Avengers Movie. I vote with my dollar.
Mel
July 12, 2010 at 5:02AM EST Reply to CommentForget marvel, I loved Edward Norton as The Hulk. RDJ's presence is now the only thing that will lead me to the movie theater to see this.
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